first spawn, respawn, other spawn being overwritten

no clue whats happening here, id like for:

- first joining players to spawn in location A
- anyone else to have their spawn controled by the vanila /spawnpoint command

I reviewed your plugins, I don't recognize some of them, but I'm not sure that's the issue.

If I were in your shoes, I'd use EssentialsXSpawn instead of relying on vanilla /spawnpoint command. Set spawns based on LP groups.

EssentialsXSpawn should override MV. Make sure your EssentialsX config has this:
respawn-listener-priority: high

If MV overrides EssentialsXSpawn after adding it back (as you said earlier), it's very possible another plugin is interfering with EssentialsXSpawn

we need to modify the player's spawn sometimes, there are areas they can go that will lock them into said area and they should stay there upon death. were doing that mainly via datapacks

I've never used datapacks for that, but I know how I'd achieve this:
1. Give player a group unique to that area upon entering
2. Set spawnpoint unique to that group
3. Remove that group from players upon completion of the area

an essentialsx group? how?

LP group

EssentialsX spawns can be set by LP group

oooooh

and set lp inheritence for default role based on current WG region?

pretty much yeah exactly

so essentials groups are LP driven? how does that work? is it a permission node?

not essentialsX groups, just LP groups

oh wait

so an essentialsx spawn (in spawns.yml) can be allowed/denied in a permission node? am i getting that right?

no

in spawns.yml, each spawn is named after a group, so lets say you had an LP group named newbie

spawns:
  default:
    world: Lobby
    x: 267.56979057453503
    y: 65.0
    z: -1.6398878628761109
    yaw: 358.49973
    pitch: 13.950009
  newbie:
    world: Lobby
    x: 267.57579768468725
    y: 65.0
    z: -1.6344856999040354
    yaw: 358.49973
    pitch: 13.950009

If using the above config,
Newbies would spawn at their designated spawn
All others would spawn "default"

to set spawns by group in-game, use /setspawn <group-name>

and newbie/default are luckperms groups?

well default is default but newbie would be a lp group yes

so you would set default to the spawnpoint you want brand new joins to use

and then other spawnpoints based on LP groups

ok side question, how do i get them the newbie group if theyre joining for the fisrt time?