Looking to host a modded server for 10 friends, been out of the game for a while.

Pretty much any established host will use high quality hardware and have their virtualization set up to allocate resources correctly. Bloom, ServCity, Lilypad, Apex, Birdflop, whatever. If they've been around a while and are transparent with their hardware, then you're probably good.

Setting up modpacks for you is a rarer feature. Most of them will give you an admin panel with a file manager. You download the modpack from modrinth or curseforge, upload to your server, and more or less good to go. Some hosts DO provide an automated process for this, but it saves a very small amount of effort.

I run a large, resource intensive modpack on Bloom with 3 cores and 12 GB of ram. I have fewer concurrent players than you do, but have my view distance at max, so ram was critical for that. I pay about $30/mo.

With that in mind, I think you might be going a bit overboard in performance.

eh apex

for modded isnt a great choice

some of their cpus are 15% slower than a i9-9900k for 4-5 usd a gb

which is not good

yeah, with Apex, you're not really paying for performance, you're paying for really good customer support. or so I've heard. I haven't bought from them before.

customer support has begun not being very great iirc? and their panel abesloutely sucks

Yeah? Good to know. I'll stop mentioning them, then.

I appreciate the honesty in regards to performance, I do realize that minecraft runs single thread and all that, but I'm very willing to pay for conveience in this. I will gladly run through some guides and tutorials on how to get stuff set up, but I am mostly concerned about the smoothness of the experience, versus the price

Common misconception. Minecraft is NOT singlethreaded. The tick loop runs in a single thread, and a LOT happens in it which causes the tick loop thread to be a common cause of lag, but Minecraft servers use other cores quite actively.

most servers will benefit from having 3-6 cores.

more than that is overkill in most cases.

Oh interesting, I did not know that

Yeah, I really hate how people have spread "minecraft is singlethreaded!" as a massive reduction of the actual situation. It's close enough to the truth to almost never be corrected, but far enough from the truth to be severely misleading.

Chunk loading and generation, for example, is off the tick loop. So is the networking. Those are both quite heavy processes.

modded less tbf

only thing in vanilla is a bit of async chunk loading (not generation), chat iirc, and thats about it

networking is only multithreaded on spigot+

Fair, but just because mod server software isn't as optimized as paper et al, and because many mods add more shit to tick.

fair. not in vanilla, you're right.

means it uses less

"optimized" to me in this case is how many threads it can use efficienctly

mods has a single thread combined iirc

depending on the mod i think

but its either main thread or a added thread but yeah

its very not good at a few threads even on paper (unless its for chunk gen**/netty)

Even so, you acknowledge that "minecraft is singlethreaded" is reductive and incorrect.

Alright, I'll probably try out the 20gb offering from bloom hosts then, thanks for the tip

I don't suppose either of you would be sitting on your favorite guides or tutorials for a server setup?